36 thoughts on “Come Try our iMacs

  1. Yay, we can use the macs to use microsoft office. there’s a great leap forward in technology. Or we could just use the pc’s which can do the same thing without a lineup.

    and you wingnuts can download safari for the pc.

    infact, the only real difference between a mac and a pc these days is the trendy commercials and the operating system, which is 50% linux anyways.

    so yes, lets all congradulate the library for spending twice as much for a pc with a shiney interface and trendy commercials. *applause*

  2. Sparkie – Its actually UNIX, not Linux. And I’m not sure how you calculated 50%.

    And as for the machines themselves, have you ever looked at the industry service report for computers? Apple has consistently been at the top for years (and, with the exception of IBM/Lenovo, way above the rest, such as Dell). There’s a reason why PC World chose it a as a better OS than Vista, and why they said the MBP was the best laptop that could run Vista at that time.

    I’m also not sure where you got the twice as much figure. I priced out my Macbook when I bought it and it was thirty dollars more than a comparable Gateway, and 40 less than a comparable Dell. Almost 3 years later and its still running strong. In comparison, my ITM prof’s 2 year old Dell is already crapping out on him. I know its a generalization, but its not like your post wasn’t fraught with them.

    I’m guessing you’re one of the closed minded people who has never even tried it.

  3. Sparkie is just one of the regular mac haters, I have to admit that I used to be one of those as well though so I can’t really criticize.
    Really happy to see that Ryerson is making this step forward though because it really is a step forward. My workflow is so much simpler and I am more productive since I’ve made the switch to Mac. Its hard to step out of the box but once you do, you’ll never want to step back in!

  4. Thank you for the comments – to answer the earlier question about whether Mac laptops are available for loan – currently, the Library has Dell laptops available which can be borrowed for 4 hrs. Adding a complement of Mac laptops is certainly something to consider. I will forward your suggestion on to the appropriate staff.

  5. RAMSS isn’t configured for Safari. Recommend having Mozilla based browser installed as backup.

    I hope the University can retire ALL Windows based computers permanently :-)

  6. OK WHATS WITH THE PEOPLE FROM APPLE LEAVING COMMENTS ON RYERSON’S PAGE THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THEM HERE I CAN SEE CLEARLY FROM 2 COMMENTS THAT THEY WERE LEFT FROM APPLE PEOPLE IN SUPPORT OF APPLE COMPUTERS THIS IS ABSURD. OH BY THE WAY THOSE APPLE COMMERCIALS ON TELEVISION ARE RIDICULOUS I TOO WILL NEVER GET USED TO THE USELESS MACS BY THE WAY WHEN THE COMPUTER IS TURNES ON I ACTUALLY FOUND THE PC’S ON THE 3RD FLOOR OF THE LIBRARY FASTER THEN THE MACS SO THERE YOU GO

  7. I must say I dont use apple except my ipod touch (which is rediculously efficient when Im on campus or a place with wifi), I find apple to be quite efficient to surf the web and general things. I wish they made engineering programs work with apple, such as solid works, if macs were compatible with that IBM would sink real fast.

  8. it is so different from my computer at home at first I didn’t know how to use it and I also found people around me asking where to go to do very specific things like go on the net. But overall I had a good experience once I got to using it and found it easy to use and useful

  9. OMG THIS IS SO AMZING. MACS R SO MUCH BETTER THEN PC’S ITS ABOUT TIME RYERSON GOT THESE PUT INTO THE LIBRARY. NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY GET OUR WORK DONE EFFICIENTLY WITH SAFARI AND THE SPEED. SPARKY YOU R SO DUM, THESE THINGS R AMAZING

  10. It comes down to personal preference… You can debate all you want about which one is better, but in the end, MAC and PCs both have their benefits & flaws…
    Each to their own.

  11. Ugh.

    Everyone stop whining!!!

    PCs are obviously better since there are way more of them in use. Obviously cars are better than bicycles since there are more of them. The more of something there is, the better it is. There are more cell phones than payphones.

  12. Hi,
    Kudos on making iMacs available. It’s nice to have some choice. I have one complaint: the Macs are locked down to the point of being useless – to me. I need to use ssh, which means Terminal (or iTerm – which I’d happily download, but disk images aren’t mountable, and only a short list of approved programs can be run). I’d also like Firefox to be available, which I can download perfectly well myself except, of course, it isn’t on the approved program list.

    There is no need to lock down the Macs this tightly. The PCs do just fine, despite the preponderance of malicious software targeting them. Unless this is relaxed, I’m stuck with the PCs.

  13. The next time that the iMacs are re-imaged we will add Firefox to these machines. I have requested that terminal emulation software also be added. Thanks for the suggestion.

  14. Hello,

    good too see that Ryerson is making other operating systems available but why not linux? Macs are expensive for same performance hardware. Introducing people to linux would be a better alternative in my opinion. Although I do prefer to use multimedia software on Macs. I don’t know how much was spent but since it is an Apple product it is highly likely at premium pricing. There are people who are boasting about Macs that only surf the internet and listen to music which to me they are just following trend. For those that are saying to get rid of all PCs, you are dreaming. I do use all 3, I prefer to use gentoo, but all depends on what I am trying to accomplish.

  15. I find it funny to see how everyone is trying to push Macs to be so great over the past few years. Come talk to the Computer Science students, and hell most likely any engineering students etc, I can almost guarantee 90% will prefer Windows and Linux over Macs. Sure Macs are great for the typical user. Once you get into real computing, Linux will dwarf Macs.

  16. Why do people continually refer to windows as PC?
    PC stands for Personal Computer. As far as I’m concerned Macs are more of a PC than windows. How often do you find Macs running in a large business area?

    Macs can be PCs. Windows can be PCs. Linux can be PCs. They’re all OS’s that run on PCs. Get your shit straight. The ignorance of the general public about computers is astonishing..

  17. off the top of the dome, im pretty sure Mac OS is BSD and not linux, fyi.

    next thing, for the average user linux sucks. no mainstream software (except firefox, what is better? office 2007 or open office??? pretty much if you want linux/mac you should just get your own computer.

    anyhow i think there is way to much hype over mac these days, the laptops are nice and all, but cmon, they are premium priced, ryerson shouldent be throwing money around on toys like macs.

    and i guarentee you that anything a mac can do, windows can plus more….

  18. i don’t see the point of MACs in the library! I mean, what is the point of having iMac when you can use a Windows PC to do the same work on MS Office or Adobe photoshopping? Ryerson is just wasting money on iMACs. It’s understanadble that the library is trying to grab student’s attention by providing the varity of ‘operating systems’ but should we just stick to one OS?
    (sigh)

  19. I think it’s wonderful that Ryerson is offering students the ability to expand their knowledge and experience the Mac OS.

    For those naysayers, did it ever occur to you that the more knowledge one has, the more valuable you are?

    I’ve graduated from Comp Sci and used to be a HARD CORE windows advocate (a.k.a Mac-hater) but since graduating, I’ve specialized in Software Quality Assurance and I can honestly say that there is no system out there that can become a portable test lab like the Macbook Pro can.

    I’m now an avid fan of Mac OSX and love my Macbook Pro. If I need to run any other operating system I just fire up my Parallels program and I can use Mac, Windows and Linux all at the same time without having to do any reboots. I’m a software developer and Software Quality Assurance Tester and I can honestly say that my productivity has increased drastically since using my MacBook Pro and I won’t turn back. :)

    Kudos Ryerson!! I’m proud to say I’m an Alumni!

    For those Mac haters out there, try educating yourself a bit before you bash technology you don’t understand.

  20. Whoever said “Macs can be PCs. Windows can be PCs. Linux can be PCs. They’re all OS’s that run on PCs. Get your shit straight. The ignorance of the general public about computers is astonishing..” is right, and the rest are all blinded by the marketing strategies these companies use. I think it’s high time everyone opened their eyes and started seeing the bigger picture.

  21. if you really want to be amazing at computers, use linux. mac's might be bsd which might be based on unix but then again, linux is a rewritten unix. anyone who still actually uses windows for anything other than running legacy windows apps really needs thier brains checked. i have been a hardcore linux user for more than two years and i install linux for people to use on thier old pentium3's and even on old power mac g3's. linux runs on all this and more. name another operating system that can and does run on all architechtures ever created? stop hating freedom, use the only free os.

  22. The great thing is introducing students into the world outside Micro$oft hegemony. This will allow the students learn more about the possibility of technology. It is well known that people who have been using more variety of software platforms have better understanding about computer technology and become better users. Variety of OS is a good thing!

    Several facts:

    – Yes Mac OS X is descendant of Unix. That said, Linux and Unixes are very alike.
    – Yes in principle a Mac desktop (such as iMac) is a PC.
    – Mac acceptance in business environment actually gaining, as more and more open standards and usage of web application increasing.
    – Macs are actually not more expensive than other PC of the same quality. Mac is more expensive than the cheapest PC with the same "power" (speed, memory, space, etc.), but quality is not just about "power".

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